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Wednesday, 23 September 2009
Transcript of online Webchat with US Ambassador to Kenya Michael Ranneberger - September 23rd 2009
CO.NX Moderator (Tim): Please post your questions before or during the chat. Once we receive your questions they will turn RED on the screen. Thank you.
CO.NX Moderator (Mark): Hello and welcome to today's webchat! We're taking your questions now. The live chat will begin at the top of the hour 12:00GMT.
CO.NX Moderator (Tim): Good morning everyone. The Ambassador will be online in less than 30 minutes. Please send in your questions now.
CO.NX Moderator (Tim): From Jeff Martin in Facebook: Just out of curiosity,what,in your opinion,is kenya's place in the African continent?
CO.NX Moderator (Tim): When we receive your questions they will turn RED. Thank you again.
Jane, Kisumu: does the Amb come on in 7 minutes?
CO.NX Moderator (Tim): The Ambassador will arrive in a few minutes. Thank you for your patience.
Ambassador Ranneberger: Good morning everyone. I am pleased to be here with you today. Please send me your questions now. Thank you.
unity2050: hello
unity2050: i am so happy to be here
tracy: good after Mr Ranneberger
Lucy Muthoni: Hello Your Excellencey
Joseph: Hallo, this is Joseph in Nairobi can I join in?
Djibouti: Excellency, Djibouti represents four reporters from La Nation (French Language News Paper) and Radio Television Djibouti. We'll be submitting questions shortly! Thank you very much!
Ambassador Ranneberger: Welcome and thank you for coming.
tracy: Thank you Sir
BARNET-GILGIL: Thank you
Johnie: Good Afternoon Nairobi, your excellency its afternoon in Nrb
Mina: hi
Nashipai Koima: Good afternoon Sir
Mina: good afternoon
Suzanne: is it possible to extend this time to about 4.30 so that His excellence can respond to all our questions?
CO.NX Moderator (Mark): Hi Suzanne, we're hoping the Ambassaor can get to as many questions as possible during today's session but please understand his schedule is tight.
Djibouti: can you describe U.S. efforts to support the TFG in Somalia?
Ambassador Ranneberger: The U.S. is working closely with Kenya to support the TFG in Somalia. Kenya has been very helpful in supporting a political process to expand support for the TFG, Kenya is trying captured pirates, and Kenya is providing assistance to the TFG. Kenya has exerted strong pressure within East Africa to stop Eritrean support for the al-Shabaab. The U.S. is also providing strong support for the TFG politically, and through financial support for the TFG especially for security assistance. The U.S. is also the largest supporter of AMISOM, and the largest provider of humanitarian assistance to the Somali people. We greatly appreciate the strong role that AMISOM is playing in Somalia.
unity2050: can i ask you question
CO.NX Moderator (Mark): We are taking questions now. The Ambasador is working on his responses.
Mina: I have a question , it is not directly related to kenya
Ambassador Ranneberger: Feel free to post it.
Mina: but to us as general
brigid koskei 2: brigid koskei from Kenya.us elections have shown us that we can as a country we can go beyond tribal and racial politics.Is this possible with the Kenyan current constitution and institutional structures that are in existence?
Ambassador Ranneberger: In order to be able to achieve what the U.S. did in electing Obama, several things must happen: 1. the Kenyan people need to work much harder to overcome entrenched ethnic attitudes; this involves working at the grassroots level, more leadership at the top, more civic education, etc. 2. there needs to be constitutional change and reform to ensure the rule of law. These reforms are necessary so that the rights and interests of each ethnic group will be protected; that way, ethnic groups will not regard every election as a ''winner take all'' situation.
Ambassador Ranneberger: 3. there must be more equitable economic development to push back poverty and to open more opportunities for all ethnic groups in order to reduce tensions and to eliminate the perception that one ethnic group controls the economy and development.
CO.NX Moderator (Mark): Thanks everyone for joining us. As you can see there are many of you online and many questions coming in. The Ambassador is working as quickly as possible to take your questions. Please be patient.
Lucy Muthoni: Thank you moderator for your assurance.
Guest : Does Obama plan to come to kenya
Ambassador Ranneberger: Obama has been to Kenya before, and I have no doubt that at some point he will visit again. However, he has made clear that he is deeply disappointed by the lack of progress in implementing reforms. When he went to Ghana, a cartoon in the Nation captured the situation well. It had a picture of Air Force One flying over Kenya, with a little Kibaki and Odinga looking up at it, and a note was floating down that said ''get your act together.signed Barack Obama.''
Jack KOdera: I thought the Chat was on Terrorism and Piracy! Has it now turned to Democratization?
CO.NX Moderator (Mark): Hello Jack, you are thinking about today's second webchat beginning in about 45 minutes. Join us immediatelly following this session for a discussion on piracy and terrorism at this CO.NX chat room: https://statedept.conenctsolutions.com/piracy
kadadi: Goodafternoon all, Nice to be here
CO.NX Moderator (Mark): Hello kadadi, welcome!
CO.NX Moderator (Mark): Also, please join us at 14:00GMT today for a webstream of President Obama's U.N. speech: https://statedept.connectsolutions.com/unga2009
kadadi: thanks Mark
tracy: Mark dear,does his excellency looked at my question??
CO.NX Moderator (Mark): Hi Tracy, there are more than 100 questions in the queue, the Ambassador is trying to answer as many as possible.
mary Eldoret: Obama presidency has been lauded the world over. What will his policy be on the Kenyan or African political set up?
Ambassador Ranneberger: promote expanded trade between the U.S. and Africa. In short, you will see the Obama Administration intensively engaged with Africa.Obama has clearly indicated that he wants to expand our relationship with the African continent in order to promote democracy, good governance, development, and conflict resolution. Thus our policy on Kenya focuses on pushing for implementation of the reform agenda. More broadly, President Obama has already announced an important new initiative: the global food security initiative, which will benefit Kenya and other countries in Africa. Secretary Clinton has already visited 7 countries in Africa to highlight our priority to engage with Africa. A major AGOA forum was held in Kenya to promote expanded trade between the U.S. and Africa. In short, you will see the Obama Administration intensively engaged with Africa.
Abraham Rugo: Thanks Mark...we will wait
tracy: thanks so much,Mark
Migolo Benjamin: we r totally behind you
Guest Nairobi: What do you think is the most important issue facing Kenyans today?
Ambassador Ranneberger: The most important issue facing Kenyans is ensuring full implementation of the reform agenda.
Dalmas: Good afternoon your excellency
kachwanya: Good afternoon everyone
CO.NX Moderator (Mark): Alphonse: America is made up of different states with people of different background, social economics and yet the country is very united.Learning from the American case,in your view,How can Kenya overcome tribalism based on that context?
Ambassador Ranneberger: Unity in America has been achieved through an appreciation that we gain strength through our diversity, and by ensuring that there are transparent institutions and rule of law which protects everyone. That is why we are pushing for constitutional and rule of law reform in Kenya. I talked above about Kenyans' need to overcome ethnic attitudes. I am optimistic that Kenya can also achieve such unity, and that the emerging younger generation will make a major contribution to this. Do not be discouraged. Keep in mind all the difficulties the U.S. has experienced, particularly in accommodating African-Americans. But the election of Obama demonstrates how fast change can happen. I believe that there is a quiet transformation sweeping Kenya and that fundamental change will come more quickly than anyone realizes.
Lucy Muthoni: Dear Mark, in line to your response to Tracy, does it mean that some questions might remain unanswered by the end of this session? If so, when will we have another session like this, so that we can post our questions early enough? Will he first look at the questions which had been posted before this chat session?
CO.NX Moderator (Mark): Hi Lucy, unfortunately there are many more questions than the Ambassador can answer in one session. We hope he will join us again in the coming weeks. All of the questions will be collected and we will forward them on to him for review.
amuteru: Good Afternoon Sir, Thanks you for creating this forum, I am Muteru journalist by profession. I wish you would consider sharing this idea with our parlimentarians to facilitate one on one with their constituents. Hope it aint complicated maybe they can start with the social networks like facebook. Straight to my question. I watched your interview with KTN and would you expound what steps your country will take if the coalition government fails on the reform agenda? and two, What is your role in constitutional process?
Ambassador Ranneberger: Great point and I will encourage the parliamentarians. You should know that I have also started face book and twitter accounts to reach out to ordinary Kenyans. My twitter is: www.twitter.com/usamb4reform and my face book page can be found by entering face book and going to ''u.s. embassy nairobi.'' I have also been doing town hall meetings with young people throughout the country, and I am urging parliamentarians to do the same thing and to join me when I do these. Kenyan leaders are used to speaking at the people, but not have a two-way dialogue with them.
Djibouti: During Secretary Clinton's visit to Kenya, she visited with TFG president Sheik Sharif and promised US support for the TFG. What support was promised, and what, if any, of that support was delivered?
Ambassador Ranneberger: The Secretary had a very positive meeting with President Sharif. I described above the assistance we are providing.
Daniel, Nairobi: Hello there, Daniel Wallis from Reuters here. How do you respond, Mr Ambassador, to yday's criticism from Fgn Minister Wetangula re. the raid that killed Saleh Ali Saleh Nabhanin Somalia? v/r
Ambassador Ranneberger: I believe that the Kenyan government fully appreciates that Nabhan was a terrorist who posed a grave threat to Kenya as well as the U.S.
Lucy Muthoni: Should I sign off, will I be able to see His Excellency's response to my question(s) later, say tomorrow, if I come to this site?
CO.NX Moderator (Mark): Yes if the Ambassador selects your que, and we will also post a transcript to our co.nx Facebook page at http://co-nx.state.gov
kk: what is US stand on the appointment of Aron Ringera?
Ambassador Ranneberger: The fact is that no minister, assistant minister, or permanent secretary, with few or no exceptions, has been successfully prosecuted for the past 19 years. Clearly, therefore the key institutions responsible for fighting corruption must be reformed and the leadership of those institutions held accountable. The scrutiny which Parliament has been undertaking is positive. It is also important that there be greater consultation with civil society and key stakeholders on such issues. Please look at the statement we issued regarding Ringera, which remains an accurate reflection of our views.
Djibouti: How does Djibouti figure in U.S. interets in the region? What role does it serve for US regional interests?
Ambassador Ranneberger: Djibouti plays an important role in the region, particularly in its efforts to support the TFG in Somalia. We have close cooperation with Djibouti. We participated in the political talks which were held in Djibouti that led to the election of President Sheikh Sharif.
Migolo Benjamin: Mine is just to offer my support to the US ambasador for keeping on the pressure on our silly politician whose business id to look after each others ass
James: how is the embassys engagement with young people in kenya structured?
Ambassador Ranneberger: I am making it a major priority to expand our engagement with young people. I am holding town hall meetings throughout Kenya with young people and I am encouraging parliamentarians to do so as well. We are supporting grassroots independent youth movements to be more effective in pushing peacefully for implementation of the reform agenda. We are also working to help economically empower youth through micro-enterprise programs.
kachwanya: Can I post the transcript of this forum on my blog kachwanya.com after the session?
Ambassador Ranneberger: Thanks Kachwanya. Feel free to post this on your blog.
Enoch Opuka 2: Migolo -moderate your language
Jack KOdera: Alot of people have a problem with the US definition of 'Terrorist'. How does the US define 'Pirate' or does the Medieval definition suffice?
Ambassador Ranneberger: A pirate is essentially just a criminal, but the term pirate refers to criminals active at sea.
Nashipai Koima: How does the U.S plan on implementing the 20 billion donated by your country to aid in food growing?
Ambassador Ranneberger: We are now in the stage of talking with Kenya and other governments to get their views on how we can best implement the food security initiative you refer to. It is too early to say exactly how it will be implemented. The purpose, however, is to help increase food production in order to alleviate food shortages and to improve nutrition, all of this also to be done in an environmentally friendly way.
amir khan: can anyone ask a question?
Ambassador Ranneberger: Yes. We have over 300 questions submitted right now.
James: young people are disjointed by the coalition govt lack of goodwill in prosecuting the perpertrators of post election violence and we understand the ICC prosecutor has been talking to the secretary of state (US) on the need to push for tribunal. Are we likely to see the US do more than just saying business will not be as usual. We want assurance as young people that we can go back in 2012 and vote knowing very well we wont be attacked for exercising a democratic right.
Ambassador Ranneberger: You are right to be disappointed. We continue to push the Kenyan government to set up an independent, credible Special Tribunal to try perpetrators of post-election violence. However, because the Kenyan government has thus far failed to do so, then we support ICC prosecutions. We mean it when we say no business as usual. Within the next couple of days we will be announcing specific steps.
Nashipai Koima: Thank you Ambassador for your time and for this forum.
Maisha: Are you only posting questions the ambassador has good answers to?
Maisha: Or are you only posting compliments?
CO.NX Moderator (Mark): We're posting answers to the questions the Ambassador has time to answer...there are now more than 150 questions. It is simply not possible for him to answer all of them.
Partnership For Change: And finally Sir, how do you respond to those who say re: Daily Nation editorial today that your threats are being ignored by the GOK and that the US needs to stops the threats and act on impunity in Kenya?
Ambassador Ranneberger: The facts speak for themselves. The U.S. played a decisive role in helping the Kenyan people resolve the crisis last year, and we are playing a similar role in pushing for implementation of reforms. We have a very close, frank, and constructive dialogue with President Kibaki, PM Odinga, and other Kenyan officials. However, at a certain point actions need to be taken, in view of the fact that there we are deeply concerned about lack of implementation of key reforms. Within the next couple of days I will be announcing some actions, with more to follow.
Julius Mbaluto: OK
Enoch Opuka 2: I beg to strongly differ about the tribunal. First and foremost we need TJRC - then from there the tribunal. Oherwise in this respect we shall be punishing those who were caught in the violence forgetting those who fanned it in the first place. I am peace worker and have been on the ground
Lucy Muthoni: Good afternoon Kachwanya.
Maisha: Partnership for Change is right. We look forward to hearing your action announcements in the next few days.
kachwanya: Mr Ambassador when President Obama was campaning to be President he clearly said that he will extend his hands to engage all the Nations even those who do not agree with US, but of late there is a parttern that he doesn't want to engage Kenya although Kenya can't be classified as a rogue Nation, why is this while he is the champion of talking to people to solve problems?
Ambassador Ranneberger: Actually, President Obama is very much engaging Kenya. He is paying a lot of attention to Kenya and sent Secretary Clinton to Kenya as part of that engagement. We are engaging with the government to press for implementation of reforms, but we are also engaging directly with the Kenyan people to urge them to press peacefully for reforms. The reason we are engaging so extensively with Kenya is because of the importance we attach to this country and its future democratic stability. We continue to be Kenya's largest partner (over 3 billion dollars in resources flow from the U.S. to Kenya every year from all sources, public and private).
CO.NX Moderator (Mark): Everyone, we are staring up a chat on the topic of Piracy. To join that discussion please go to https://statedept.connectsolutions.com/piracy
Dalmas: The situation in Somalia is very worrying. Do you believe the US has done enough to assist Kenya fight terrorism? The border is still porous. Technological assistance would grartly help.
Ambassador Ranneberger: We are doing all we can to help strengthen the TFG and to fight terrorism. This includes cooperation with Kenya to improve security along the border.
James 2: Thanks ambassador for engaging us in this chat. We look forward to engaging you more especially us who are working with the young consitiuncy on youth voices in engaged governance
Partnership For Change: Asante sana Ambassador, we appreciate your regular chats with Kenyans and appreciate very much your continued support for the Citizens of Kenya. Have a good afternoon.
Fatma Hyder: Fatma Hyder: Ambassador can we get information on the following:1)Business Volunteers to partner with counterparts in Muslim majority countries 2)The summit which President Obama promised to host in his Cairo address 3)The new fund to support technological dev in Muslim counties 4)Centers of scientific excellence in Africa M.E etc.5)Global effort with OIC to eradicate polio 6)The president also said that America is ready to join with citizen religious leadres in Muslim communities anything yet in Kenya.Please refe to Obama in Cairo pg 13 thnaks Fatma Hyder
Ambassador Ranneberger: We are following up on Obama's Cairo speech. I went to the coast a couple of times following the speech to expand our already extensive dialogue with the Muslim community. We are working on a number of programs to promote educational, cultural, and business exchanges -- and the centers of excellence the President talked about. We are also promoting an inter-faith day of service and will soon provide more information about that. You can contact the U.S. Embassy Public Affairs Section for more detailed information.
Jane, Kisumu: thanks for an opp to chat nonetheless.
Abraham Rugo: Hello Sir. Do you think that the health plan that President Obama is vouching for is the right way to go for a country that has for long applied capitalism and free markets? If so, do you think that the US Government will soon be encouraging other countries to follow suit?
Ambassador Ranneberger: I cannot comment on the health plan. However, I think that the way in which Americans have been debating this issue through public town hall meetings is a great example to countries like Kenya. I would like to see Kenyans debate the reform issues in a similar open way.
kachwanya: As we know it today there is rampant corruption and with the President stinking with Ringera, what steps will you take to ensure that the money donated by US for food growing is not embezzled by the government officials
Ambassador Ranneberger: I can assure you that we can account for every penny of the assistance we provide. By the way, almost all of our assistance goes through non-governmental groups and other sources, and not through the Kenyan government.
Johnie: why is it so difficult to get a student visa to the US even with an invitation from the university
Ambassador Ranneberger: Actually, it is not hard to get a student visa, but you do have to meet certain criteria, and a letter of invitation is only one of the requirements. There are more Kenyans studying at American universities than from any other African country.
CATHY MUTHONI: Hi, is it possible to maintain a green card oiutside the US by paying a yearly fee?
Ambassador Ranneberger: you need to consult our consular section on this issue.
Ambassador Ranneberger: I greatly enjoyed having a chance to chat with all of you. Please look at twitter (www.twitter.com/usamb4reform) and my face book page listed as U.S. Embassy!!
Friday, 24 July 2009
Kenya's Youth Council Bill is merely a means to keep the old guard on top

Kenya's National Youth Council Bill 2009 came up for reading this week in parliament, though lack of quorum once again caused some delay. Though this should be cause for celebration for the country's youth movement, several clauses illustrate the government's inability to respect the needs and demands of Kenya's youth.
Indeed the Bill is ambiguous even when it comes to the definition of who actually constitute the youth. In the Bill's preliminary, the youth are termed as persons between fifteen and thirty years. However,the United Nations categorises youth as those between the ages of 15 to 24 years old. And for one to benefit from a loan from the country's Youth Enterprise Development Fund, one has to be between the ages of 18 to 35 years.
Then there is the issue of actual youth participation in the proposed Council. Section 5 of the Bill states that the Chairperson shall be appointed solely by the Minister of Youth Affairs & Sports. However, she need not even consult with youth groups when making her decision, so she could appoint a geriatric if she chose.
On further perusal of the clauses regarding the composition of the Council, it turns out that it is not only the Chair that could turn out to be old. Apart from the traditional practice of having permanent secretaries from the parent ministry and the Treasury in addition to the Attorney General (or an appointed proxy), the Minister also holds sole powers to appoint six other members to the Council. The clause once again does not insist on any consultation with youth groups, and also has no mention whatsoever of the age of these members.
Further, the Chief Executive of the Council can be as old as Methuselah as far as the Bill is concerned. This is the same officer who should serve as the face of the Council and be the voice of the youth to the Council members, yet the Bill omits to mention that they even need to form any liaisons with the country's youth groups or have any prior experience in youth policy making.
The staff of the Council too do not have to be youth. And remember that it was only a few months ago when the retirement age of civil servants in Kenya was hiked up by five years to 65! Seeing that the government claims to be striving to implement austerity measures, most likely the staff will be deployed from other government ministries; so who is to say that the Council offices will not be manned by 59 year olds? This in the same country where nearly 10% of the total population are unemployed youth, stinks of the same insensitivity government policies have had towards the Kenyan people.
The bid to control the youth through this reactionary document, also rises higher up in government echelons, not merely resting on the shoulders of the Minister of Youth Affairs. The President who himself is inching closer to 80 years holds the sole power to appoint the Chairperson of the proposed Advisory Board to the Council. This is the same person that oversaw the re-appointment of the oldest civil servant in Kenyan history back to the Kenya Airport Authority! Even scanning appointments to commissions and government agencies, it would be more in keeping to norm for the President to appoint someone over retirement age, this time not even having to consult with younger MPs let alone youth organisations themselves.
But there is a glimmer of light where the advisory board is concerned where the Minister of Youth (again!) has the power to appoint eight representatives of youth organisations. However, yet again the youth are locked out in getting extra seats on this board by the following factors:
- Though one member must be nominated by the Kenya Private Sector Alliance, to be a member one has be an association or a corporate entity and fork out at least Kshs. 5,000 (US$ 65). Youth entrepreneurs generally tend to be cash strapped, and thus more likely to be unable to even afford this sum, precluding them from such a nomination.
- Including only the Commission of Higher Education to represent the education sector ignores the millions of youth who never had or will have the opportunity to benefit from tertiary education.
- The National Economic and Social Council has a small minority of youth members, who once again only represent the creme de la creme of industry and financial services in the country. What about the informal sector entrepreneurs who form the majority of business activity in Kenya and employ 75% of Kenyans of working age?
- Finally where are the nomination categories that will nominate members to press for the rights of rural and urban poor youth?
Even the experts that are supposed to advise the advisory board do not have to be youthful. To us, the best expert is the one that is living the life - the youth themselves!
Another toothless dog?
It seems that indeed this proposed Council is once again a PR gimmick of the government, a mere toothless poodle to appease and control the youth. Under the Bill, the activities and mandates of the Council are only a duplication of what national youth movements have already being doing for eons. The proposed Council pales in comparison to the youth council in Rwanda, which even has enough power to elect members to the country's Chamber of Deputies, the second chamber of parliament.
As Hon. Denis H. Obua MP of Uganda writing earlier on the yipe.org blog comparing the mainstreaming of youth policy in his country to that of Rwanda commented:
"My observation was that issues of the youth are given top priority by the Rwandan government.
Their youth councils are one of the best supported in Africa and the Ministry of Youth Affairs is considered one of the core ministries ... But does the Rwandan government have more resources than Uganda’s? The answer is no, but issues of the youth attract top attention in Kigali".- Govt crippling youth efforts to live better, November 21 2008
Though the Kenya Bill tries to promote fresh talent by limiting the number of years one can sit on the Council or the Advisory Board to three years, a better measure would be to ensure that the main decision making powers rest with the youth membership, while the permanent secretaries and Attorney General's representative act as advisers to ensure they act within mandate and the law. The maximum limit for the youth Council members can be either 30 or 35 years, after the Ministry of Youth finally settles on one age. After that the Council members should retire.
Also the powers of the Minister of Youth to hire and fire should be curtailed, by insisting that there should be some consultative process with the youth of Kenya, before embarking on such actions.
